The Reminiscences of Carlos Pagan

The Transcript

Well, no wonder, it was something that I never had in my life, structure and discipline, and this bunch of guys. You know, I had been in prison many a time before, and I don’t see anybody trying to rough anybody up. It was like a brotherhood; black, whites, you know, Puerto Ricans. We all got along. We all really got along. We went to groups, it was a brotherhood, you know.
— Carlos Pagan

Biography: Carlos Pagan is the founder of the rehabilitation program El Regreso (Project Return) and a former resident of Phoenix House.

Keywords: Phoenix House; Efrén Ramirez; substance abuse; rehabilitation; Hart Island; Julio Martinez; Ronald Williams; Howard Josepher